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Wednesday, March 08, 2006

TV to watch

CHTV
Discussion with Mr. Marin and Andrea Horwath
Bill 210
Thursday March 9, 2006
5:30 pm

"Wards of the Crown"
CBC Newsworld The Lens
Saturday March 11
10:00 pm

17 comments:

Anonymous said...

wonderful news!!! I am glad that they are doing this, the public needs to know what is going on with those agencies.

Anonymous said...

The show also repeats at 11:30
its Mark and Donna Ch TV Ham.
Please e-mail or call in and leave your comments after the show, I will post the contact in the morning,I will have to call the station, as I forgot to watch tonight.
People we have till the house comes back , the time is now for pubic to let are voices heard. Thanks Amanda for putting it up.

Anonymous said...

I caught part of this segment on CHTV this evening. It was fairly short. Andre Marin said it quite clearly, the Ombudsman only has the power to recommend, the government can ignore recommendations made. So while oversight of CASs by the Ombudsman should be in place as a matter of principle, it is clear even more than that needs to be done to ensure transparent accountability for CAS agents and the responsible Ministry. The McGuinty government and CASs are afraid of Ombudsman oversight which is non-binding, what does that tell us is really going on that they do not wish the public to find out...

Anonymous said...

if who ever posted that last comment could please send it to 530@chtv.ca
that might help. This is show that will messure public feed back, and you can bet they are watching, so lots of calls and emails tonight will be helpful to let your concerns be known.
the number is 905 522-1101 and leave your messg.
I thought the talking head for the CAS wasjust that, he had the gull to bring up the crown wards ....
Child death review Hello they are children that have died in CAS care. how nice, and all the messures in place now to complain to ,Tell that to the many that wait years for maybe a directore review, it does not happen,very often. and it most certainly wont happen in time to save a baby from the clutches of CAS adoption business.
Yes they have much to hide and answer to. but what can we do, if we dont get out and try and make are concerns heard. So Please e mail
530@chtv.ca or call 905 522-1101
this is a chance for the public to hear are concerns. and the last comment was right on.

Anonymous said...

Thank you to the poster for giving the number, and the email. I have responded. I hope that they are flooded with calls and emails.

Anonymous said...

Changes to Oversight of Child Abuse Cases
March 9, 2006, 05:32 PM


Changes to Oversight of Child Abuse CasesTHIS SHOULD BE THE GOAL
WITH BILL C210 IT WILL BE MORE AND MORE CHILDREN, AND HUGE NUMBERS OF NEW BORN REMOVED, WITH OUT OVER SIGHT!!.the liberals blaming the Tories, for not caring about children and delayed there plan to start trafficking in children, we are NOT FOOLED. Try and act like adults Ms Chambers, the children are held hostage by your friends,at the CAS can wait a few more weeks, before collecting adoption bonus, cant they ? let the moms have a few days with there OWN baby's, before you find them new permanent pre-screened families laying in wait.
Decorating the nursery's before the Bill is passed. The CAS is still NABBING the kids,don't worry. Worry about how this will reflect on what this government had the gull to do!! to children and families in a decade from now ,or less. WHY NO OVER SITE FROM THE OMBUDSMAN ITS IN ALMOST EVERY OTHER PROVINCE, OR WAS A ROCK AND A HARD PLACE ( AND IT DID NOT TELL THE WHOLE SCANDALOUS AFFAIR) TO THREATENING TO BUSINESS.
CAS BREAKS THE LAW DAILY, AND ARE NOT HELD
ACCOUNTABLE FOR DOING SO. IT IS ILLEGAL TO QUESTION A CHILD WITH OUT PARENTAL CONSENT IN THIS COUNTRY, HOW DO THEY WIGGLE AROUND THAT ONE. PERJURY IS JUST PART OF THE PLAN IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CHILD.
ITS NOT CHILD PROTECTION, IT NEVER HAS BEEN, TEN YEAR OLDS ON CRACK IN CARE. 12 YEAR OLD CROWN WARDS ,THAT HATE MEN, BECAUSE THE ONLY AFFECTION THEY HAVE BEEN SHOWN SINCE THEY DAY THEY WERE STOLEN HAS BEEN INAPPROPRIATE. PLEASE STOP SAYING IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CHILD, IT IS THE WEAKEST TERM USED IN LAW. AND IS CATCHY , BUT HEY THE GIG IS ALMOST UP
if Michigan has finally caught on and it does read, IT WILL NOW HELP FAMILIES RATHER THEN TEARING THEM APART, god bless them. The citizens of Michigan must be so proud to finally hear the truth, and disgusted by the years of abuse and deaths of children in care failed adoptions, and the soulless children they have created, in the name of the best interest and protection. IT WILL NOW ! NOW ! HELP FAMILIES! RATHER THEN TEARING THEM APART. TRY IT HEAR SHOVE THAT BILL WILL THE SUN WONT SHINE, THAT IS WHAT IS TRULY IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CHILDREN AND SOCIETY IN GENERAL. AND FOR THIS GOVERNMENT TO ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING MEANINGFUL. naw we have to wait , till the headlines are so disturbing and every one has a Swiss bank account and a new number company, to hide behind, before it will happen hear, GOD BLESS THE CHILD THAT HAS ITS OWN parents.

The Department of Human Services says child abuse and neglect are growing problems in our state. That's why the department is announcing changes it hopes will keep more Michigan kids safe. A document outlines the department's goals for the next three years.

The director says it's not a reaction to how the state handled

the case of 7-year-old Ricky Holland, and that the changes are part of a long-term strategy. The goal- to keep kids out of foster care and safe at home.

Since Maryanne Udow took over the Department of Human Services, she's been working to change the philosophy and the practice of immediately pulling kids out of troubled homes.

Maryanne Udow, Dept. of Human Services: "Our goal, first and foremost, is to keep them safely with families, if we can do that."

It's called the family-to-family program, and by the end of this year, it'll be in place across most of Michigan. Udow says it will help build families instead of tearing them apart.

Maryanne Udow: "75% of kids who come into the child welfare system are there because of neglect, not abuse."

Udow says sometimes kids taken out of their homes end up paying a very high price.

Maryanne Udow: "They've been in 10 different schools, many of them don't finish high school, many of them end up in the criminal justice system because they've had such disruptive lives."

Under the family-to-family program, the department won't remove a child until a community-based team weighs in.

Maryanne Udow: "We're partners with law enforcement, we're partners with the faith community, we're partners with housing."

And if it's decided a child must be removed, the family-to-family program will look for ways to keep some sense of stability in their lives.

Maryanne Udow: "Our goal, first and foremost, is to keep them safely with families. If we can't do that, 2nd,we keep them in their neighborhoods, in their schools, 3rd, we keep them with relatives."

Udow says removing a child from a community is a last resort. Right now the department is struggling with only about 700 caseworkers for the entire state. The governor is calling for more funding, but Udow says these changes can't wait

Anonymous said...

If that the most vulnerable or valuable children being held hostage? Racist moves going on in Hamilton a mom left her 5 black baby's home alone, and went out on the town , they went home three days later, but the pretty white twins, that the girl down the street just gave birth too, have not been returned, and it was an ex boy friend that called in because he is angry she married someone else, she even proved to all that would look she's had a restraining order against him for 3 years, he had been stalking her. Give her back her baby's, you made its so fuking obvious to everyone in the area what going on.excuse my language

Anonymous said...

this is what Bill 210 will look like. foster family fights over natural family for the right to adopt.



Foster parents fight family's
adoption request
By DEBORAH CIRCELLI
Staff Writer

Attorneys for the Orange City couple who recently received custody of their former foster child want the courts to hear their clients' adoption request and not the request from the child's relatives.

The attorneys for Denise and Ivar Baklid filed a petition Wednesday with the 5th District Court of Appeal asking the appellate judges to prevent the circuit court from holding four days of hearings in May on both applications.

Hearings are set before Circuit Judge Frank Marriott on the adoption petitions of the Baklids and the child's second cousin, Tiffany Delk, and her husband, Jeff, of Tennessee.

The Baklids' attorneys say there is no reason for the hearings since the appellate court ordered the 4-year-old child known as Christian be returned to the Baklids. They said the appellate judges would have never moved the child if they didn't envision him remaining with the foster parents.

Christian went back last week to his former foster home where he lived from 3 months old until 19 months old. He had been living for more than 2 1/2 years with the Delks.

The case, which has been in the courts for more than three years, has sparked a debate statewide on the issue of blood ties versus early bonding with foster parents.

"There needs to be some finality to this litigation. This child needs a permanent, stable home," said Rick Brown, attorney for the Baklids.

Officials with the state Department of Children & Families, which has supported the child living with his relatives, would not comment.

Denise Baklid said earlier in the week that Christian is doing well. Brown said the child is receiving counseling to help with the transition.

But relatives of Christian, who was removed from his mother at birth, said Christian misses and belongs with family and the hearings should not be canceled.

Eppie Cataldo Bailey, a cousin of Christian who is also Tiffany Delk's older sister, said her sister should be able to communicate how she feels and have a chance to adopt him.

"We think of him in terms of our own biological children," Bailey said. "He is attached to his immediate family through us. There are things we know and can provide him with."

Gerard Glynn, a child advocate and associate professor of law at Barry University School of Law in Orlando, does not think an appellate court will give an opinion without the lower court holding hearings on both petitions.

"My wish has been for the adults to come to a resolution that is best for the child, short of judges resolving it," said Glynn, adding both couples should remain involved in the child's life.

deborah.circelli@news-jrnl.com

Anonymous said...

Father at end of his rope fighting for seven-year-old daughter
Northumberland News, Canada - 10 hours ago
... "I think this whole system sucks. I think the Children's aid societies didn't do their jobs and I have to wonder if I was a woman would this be different? ...
IS THIS CHILD SAFE CAS.
INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY
Childrens aid societies
THATS WHAT ITS ALL ABOUT
Accountants probe allegations of over-billing at NS Children's Aid ...
Canada.com, Canada - 22 Feb 2006
... broke his silence after he was fired and lodged a complaint with the Community Services Department, which oversees children's aid societies throughout the ...
THE BOTTOM LINE. CALL THEM ALL SPECIAL NEEDS MAKE A FEW EXTRA BUCKS.

Tories Turning Their Backs On Vulnerable Children
Canada NewsWire (press release), Canada - 2 Mar 2006
... children is being ignored by the Tories irresponsible decision to prevent passage of legislation that protects those in children's aid societies, MPP John ...
WHAT'S THE RUSH. THE TORIES ARE NOT GOING TO DO MUCH MORE THEN DELAYING CHILD TRAFFICKING.


Impulsive child needs a home
Toronto Star, Canada - 3 Mar 2006
... AdoptOntario is a partnership between Children's Aid Societies, the Adoption Council of Ontario, private adoption professionals and the Ministry of Children ...
SO THE INTERNATIONAL ADOPTIONS DOORS ARE CLOSING, GO INTO BUSINESS WITH THE CAS.
LEGALIZE GAY MARRIAGE, BAN ABORTION, AND HEY WERE RICH. IMPULSIVE GOVENERMENT NEEDS A TIME OUT.


Group wants Children's Aid Society off Six Nations land
Hamilton Spectator, Canada - 18 Feb 2006
... Koster admits there is a negative history of First Nations dealings with Children's Aid Societies and this makes individual issues more difficult. ...
HAVE WE NOT HARMED ENOUGH ALREADY.
LEAVE THERE CHILDREN ALONE PLEASE.
GENOCIDE

Ombudsman Ontario: Proposed Legislative Changes Fall Short of ...
CCNMatthews (press release), Canada - 14 Feb 2006
... Law Amendment Act, fall far short of what is needed to ensure independent, third party, investigative oversight of Children's Aid Societies, according to ...
THERE IS WAY TO MUCH TO HIDE, BUT ONE DAY!
Ministry of Children and Youth Services
Ministry of Children and Youth Services. Select a Subject, -----------------------------------------------, Adoption, Best Start, Child Protection ...
www.children.gov.on.ca/CS/en/default.htm - 42k - 8 Mar 2006 - Cached - Similar pages

NOW REALLY YOU COULD HAVE WAITED A BIT BEFORE LETTING ONTARIO KNOW YOUR INTO THE ADOPTION BUSINESS, WHERE'S THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CHILD STUFF, AND HELPING FAMILY'S FIRST. SHAME


Expect strike Thursday: Ryan
Durham region news, Canada - 22 Feb 2006
... current and former employees, including municipal governments, school boards, libraries, police and fire departments, children's aid societies and other local ... CUPE would shut schools to fight pension bill
Ottawa Citizen, Canada - 14 Feb 2006
... the Ottawa French Catholic school board. Staff at the Children's Aid societies of Lanark and Smiths Falls are also in the union. McGuinty has set up a discriminatory divide

WOW THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A DISASTER WHAT IF A BUNCH OF POOR SINGLE WOMEN HAD BABIES , AND NOT ENOUGH WORKERS TO GRAB EM ALL.


Oversight of Child Abuse Cases WLNS
Program tries to change how foster care children are handled MLive.com
Program trying to change how foster care children are handled WOOD-TV
Contra Costa Times - all 9 related » buildings, children's aid societies and schools ... Changes to Oversight of Child Abuse Cases WLNS
Program tries to change how foster care children are handled MLive.com
Program trying to change how foster care children are handled WOOD-TV
Contra Costa Times - all 9 related » THIS IS WHAT IS SUPPOSE TO DO, THEY FAILED AT EVERYTHING ELSE. CHILDREN HAVE DIED BY THE THOUSANDS,BEING PROTECTED. 75 PERCENT OF CHILDREN ARE NOT IN CARE TODAY BECAUSE OF ABUSE. THEY ARE IN CARE THANKS TO PSYCHO BABBLE AND MORE.

State looking into death of foster child
ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST OH WELL.
Foster parents fight family's adoption request
.THIS IS BILL 210 COMING TO ONTARIO.
THERE WILL BE SO MUCH OF IT, THE PUBLIC WILL BE ENRAGED

One year after Dontel's death, Team 5 learned why foster children like him, children with special needs, could be most at risk.
MUST MAKE MOMS FEEL WARM AND FUZZY, HAVING TO SEE THERE WERE PROTECTION CONCERNS TO GET SEVICES FOR CHILDREN NICE JOB.
AND HOW MANY DIE IN CARE.
Kept out of school
Group home threatens to file lawsuit against Apple Valley School District over long delays to get students enrolledSuperintendent says safety of entire student body a concern
Educational negligent by child protection agencies. It is also happening right here in Ont. Yet if a parent raised a child to be a monster, and the school would not have them well.!!!The system has created a mess, get the government out of the child protection industry



Advocates for gay adoption calling for support

HEY GEORGE,S MINISTER OF HEALTH SIGN UP FOR YOUR BABIES YET.

TODDLER’S JUSTICE
The Voice, UK - 8 Mar 2006
... grounds that it “hadn’t worked out” and that they had “failed to bond . NEW SAFE PERMANENT FAMILY'S, CHILDREN ARE LESS LIKELY TO BE ABUSED BY SOMEONE WITH BONDS TO THEM, LIKE A BREAST FEED BABY PERHAPS, A GRANDMOTHER, OR AUNT. NOT LIKELY

REMEMBER CHAMBERS AND PUPATELLO SAY THEY ARE THERE CHILDREN. ALL THERES.

Case of abused boy given to adoptive parents in Sweden rings alarm ...
Radio Prague, Czech Republic - 2 Mar 2006
... It has been considering putting further adoptions on hold until this case is resolved, although the head ... I think the local social workers failed in their duty ...

ABUSE BY NEW SAFE FAMILYS OH NO .

Church Losing Its Clout in Boston
Los Angeles Times, CA - 3 Mar 2006
... to ban Catholic social service agencies from facilitating adoptions by same ... Documents uncovered in Boston showed that archdiocese officials failed to remove ... Russian adoptions held up by red tape
San Francisco Chronicle, USA - 23 Feb 2006
... its regulations on foreign adoptions, and the number of Russian adoptions in the ... many of the agencies that lost their accreditation, ITS OK ONTARIO WILL HAVE LOTS OF BABYS SOON

Speaking of Sean
News & Observer, NC - 3 Mar 2006
... Given that these adoptions went so terribly awry, the Wake and Johnston county ... appears that coordination between ag

FAILED ADOPTION IN NEW PERMANENT FAMILY? SOMETHING WENT AWRY,! SHE KILLED THE CHILD, HECK! THE NATURAL MOM IS GOING TO BE SO PISSED, WHEN SHE DOES NOT GET HER PICTURE OF THE KID THIS YEAR, AND ALL SHE DID WAS BELIEVE THIS CRAP, ABOUT SEEING HER BABY JUST SIGN HERE.

... resources (sperm and egg collectionencies in the two counties failed

), international trade (foreign adoptions), expert services ... will drop $100,000 on round after round of failed IVF treatments ... Sioux City Journal, IA - 22 Feb 2006

ITS ALL OK COME TO ONTARIO BILL 210 WILL

TAKE CARE OF YOU



... the agency has) in place for the adoptive family in a failed adoption, both ... Critics of this kind of regulation say it would lead to fewer adoptions. ... State finds adoptive mother at fault for child's death

AGAIN SHIT. WAS THIS A CAS THING, THE TRUTH IS YOU CANNOT PREDICT HUMAN BEHAVIOUR, GET IT YET

Activists see gay adoption as next battleground

COME TO ONTARIO GET MARRIED AND TAKE HOME A FEW KIDS.

ITS ALL BEEN PLANNED.THIS WILL BE GREAT FOR TOURISM EH!!

The Battle Over Baby Rebecca

J urors deliberating abuse case
Knoxville News Sentinel (subscription), TN - 6 Feb 2006
... abusing children they took into their care through private adoptions or foster ... Defense attorneys contended the state failed to examine allegations that came ...

again . THIS IS NOT THE ANSWER, THINK AND DO WHAT IS GODS WILL NOT YOURS,

NOW IF I GET SHOT, PEOPLE KNOW WHO I AM. IF YOU TAKE MY KID MANY PEOPLE KNOW WHO I AM. RIGHT GUYS??

Anonymous said...

right dont worry. we have you covered, lol, keep up the good work, that was a bit of your dark humor enjoyed it.

Anonymous said...

If I may return to the show for a moment, it was very heartening to hear Mr. Marin point out there is no independent body to pursue public complaints against CAS and to say that independent accountability is inevitable. That is a very strong statement.

At the same time, both he and Ms. Horwath tried to soften or balance their attack by stating they believe CAS does good work - a very smart strategy in that who could object to their reasonable request? In truth, they both know that independent oversight would open an incredible can of worms.

What they may not be savvy to is that this approach will not work. CAS has no interest in providing justice to the thousands of children and families it abuses. Total control is the name of the game. Opposition, even when wrapped in an olive branch, is not tolerated.

I sent my comment to the show and would encourage everyone else to do so. Perhaps some will be given air time.

I wish someone had asked Verticchio what CAS would think of a parent who placed their child in clinical drug tests for psychotropic drugs. That's exactly what Hamilton CAS did with its foster kids. Verticchio justified doing so on the grounds it was cleared by McMaster's ethics committee (no conflict there.) In fact, Hamilton has a long history of treating its so called clients with disdain.

Unfortunately, the broadcast's hosts did not point out that the 16 supposed accountability safeguards Verticchio referred to are all internal and self regulatory. Almost none have anything to do with the agency's core mission and those that do are a joke. Jeanette Lewis also tried this nonsense and was caught.

No one asked Verticchio why CAS blocks the public from membership or engages in the other well-known tactics it uses to avoid accountability. That's just the tip of the iceburg.

Anonymous said...

A question about CAS internal complaints process that requires people to deal first with those lying about them, then with those who cover up for them also would have been good. Ultimately, their unaccountable boards find no problem - even when children are abducted illegally, employees demonstrate unbelievable negligence, commit perjury, etc. No one is ever disciplined or fired. People who sincerely cared for children would never act this way - what a sham.

Anonymous said...

I am interrest in the person that mention Mac I know the study you are referring to, I also have had my own problems like many others with this hospital, I would like to speak with you is possible. I just came back from CHTV show air again tonight, John Dunn After Foster care was also on.
They had tremendous response, les try and do the same tonight, the e-mails and calls perhaps can be forwarded to the Ministers office and others.
Amanda has my contact.
and show tonight 5:30 Mark and Donna,530@chtv.ca

Anonymous said...

Another interesting thing about all this is the NDPs position. Traditionally, the party is strongly committed to a government role in peoples' lives and has a close alliance with unions to which CAS employees belong. For the party to push for accountability is real indication of how corrupt and broken CAS is. Kudos NDP.

Anonymous said...

Babies stolen for sale on Chinese black market

Friday, February 01 2002

FROM LYNNE O'DONNELL IN BEIJING
The Times of London

AT THE darkest hour of the night, Wang Yijun, an itinerant Chinese coalminer, stumbled out of bed to investigate a loud banging on the door of the hut he shared with his wife and their six-month-old son.

A gang of men wielding sticks burst into the room, smashed the light bulb, beat Wang and his wife senseless and made off with their baby.

It was a pattern to be repeated often in Handan, a dismal county in northern Hebei province where the major industry is coal but the mostly bankrupt and dangerous mines are being closed down rapidly.

Between June 2000 and April last year, according to local police, 22 babies were stolen in Handan, all of them snatched by a gang that struck between midnight and 3am.

In a country where families place a premium on boys and most people are restricted to having one child to conform with draconian population control measures, the market for stolen babies is booming.

Childless couples unwilling to grapple with the adoption bureaucracy, rural families in need of more hands on the farm, couples who have only daughters and yearn for a son — all are willing to pay well for black market babies.

The potential profits have created a huge clandestine industry in which babies are stolen or, in some cases, bred for sale. Once in the possession of brokers, the children change hands often, sometimes seven or eight times, before they find a home.

The well-organised Handan gang, led by Qian Changxiong and comprising about 50 itinerant workers from the dirt-poor province of Yunnan, preyed on their own kind, other migrants from the poverty belt of the south west who had come north in search of work.

As the Government closes bankrupt and inefficient mines and increases the use of natural gas, migrant workers, who number more than 200 million nationwide, are resorting to crime to make money.

According to Qi Xiaobo, of the Handan county police bureau, the gang members would patrol the migrant shanty towns during the day, choosing their victims, and return at night to claim their booty with tools and sticks and torches.

The average rural income is 500 yuan (£42) a month, but two of the babies had fetched 9,800 yuan and 12,000 yuan from families desperate for sons, he said.

“When we tracked down these two, the families that had bought them had already run away. One of the families had to be persuaded to give the baby back because they didn’t see that they had done anything wrong,” Mr Qi said.

He said that 17 of the stolen Handan babies had been found, although one had suffocated in transit.

Copyright 2002 Times Newspapers Ltd.

Anonymous said...

Conflict of Interest?
All baby brokers are the same.

Jury: $3 million for adoption lawyer error
Feb 15, 2006, 20:06 GMT

KANSAS CITY, MO, United States (UPI) -- A Missouri jury awarded a woman $3 million after finding that her lawyer misrepresented her 11 years ago when she put her child up for adoption.

Kansas City, Mo., jurors found that Sanford Krigel and his law firm failed to adequately represent Chandrika Collins, 32, The Kansas City Star reported.

Collins said she believed Krigel was her lawyer in 1995 when she agreed to let a Pennsylvania couple adopt her baby.

After the proceedings started, Collins changed her mind and chose not to put the baby up for adoption. Jurors said Krigel did not try to stop the process and actually worked with the adoptive parents.

The newspaper said Collins did not see her son, now 10, for more than four years while she fought in court for joint custody.

The Star quoted an adoption advocacy group as saying it is common for lawyers to represent both birth mothers and adoptive parents.

Krigel said during the trial that he never actually worked for Collins and referred her to another lawyer after talking to her for a few minutes. His lawyers said he would appeal.

Copyright 2006 by United Press International

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